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Permanent Record Podcast

Brian and Sarah are your hosts for this look back at albums from the New Wave and Classic Rock genres-- albums which have earned a permanent spot in their record collection. The hosts start the discussion with a history of the album, followed by their personal history with it. Over the course of two episodes, they do a track-by-track review of the album and the videos that accompany the singles. They conclude by each giving the album a final review and rating of zero to five record adapters. Join Brian and Sarah in this fun look back at the hits-- along with some misses-- of the 70s and 80s!

Jun 19, 2020

Episode 107:  In Conversation with Rob Rowe (Cause and Effect, VH x RR) and Von Hertzog (VH x RR)

Brian and Sarah are thrilled to present this very special episode! They had the privilege and pleasure of speaking with two talented musicians who've recently joined forces-- one whose music they've loved for almost 30 years, and another whose music they just recently learned about, and are really enjoying.

Rob Rowe has been in the groups Cause and Effect and Whitewaits, and Von Hertzog has released numerous albums, EPs,  and singles under his own name. Together they've formed the band VH x RR, and their new EP, "The Persistence of Memory," has just been released.

Our hosts first speak with Rob Rowe about his years with Cause and Effect and Whitewaits, and then Von Hertzog joins the conversation and shares his history. The conversation then turns to the new project, VH x RR, its origins, and "The Persistence of Memory."  And as per usual, Brian and Sarah provide some analysis and commentary on several of the tracks.

It's an enlightening and enjoyable conversation with some terrific guys who've made great music, both apart and together-- you won't want to miss it!

See the videos discussed here:

You Think You Know Her

Another Minute - original version

It's Over Now

Listen to the song "Golden" here

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